This past post view of me interviewing someone who not a believer.

This was a hard blog to write because of the situation.

Unbeliever Blog

1. Philosophy , science, and arts. Like albert camus . Physics and quantum psi phenomena. 

2. People are to busy to be interested in that sort of thing not a culture norm it used to be. 

3.intellectual stimulating to the mind logic in a search for truth.

4. Relevant to where people are and answer questions. How can we improve? education be willing to admit when you do not know things. 

5. Whats your personal belief system? Agnostic 

6. what your view how to get to heaven? Not sure if there is a heaven struggle to believe there is a hell and God.

7.what good comes out of Christianity ? personal reflection. inspires to help humanity 

8. why should people even attend CHurch? Its a part of their religious belief.

9. DO you think a Christian is any like anybody else? Yes

10.What is perfect truth? An accurate description of reality. Does not know what it looks like.

This blog was hard for me to write. The person did not know that, but he was a Christian last year and now  he is struggling and does not no what to think about God. He is pursuing knowledge and feels like we play with our emotions its based on emotional response. So next before we hype up youth or a big event lets use our heads too. 

Curt Seaburg Victory Church Lancaster, PA

Men of Iron ministry. Mentor protégé its a back bone for his church.

Curt Seaburg Victory Church Lancaster, PA

Has a church in Victory, flew over the city he pastors to pray over it. Grew up in a Christian home.
He was 16 when his dad got saved. he was drugged to church when ever the church doors were open. Grew up in New York upstate. 1985 met his wife PAm. He graduated Zion started a youth group,ephuarata
Went to VFCC for classes. Went to a church where they had to wear ties. He says he has not learned stuff that was applicable from going to school. his first lesson was he was not as smart as thought he was. He hire for chemistry ,character ,and confidence. He started cocky and thought he knew more than he knew. He was very about competitive everything. His first senior pastor was 20 years apart. Two different generations of pastorship. They had to walk down center isle of the church when service started. The pastor gave him a chance a shot to be his youth pastor. The pastor apologized about some stuff in the past. How did he cope and not get bitter in ministry. 10 % that started ministry from the beginning that are 65.They are a lot of Church politics. We don't celebrate it. He coped very naive. He did not think twice about some of the ways he was treated. He is very optimistic and forward minded. You got to realize its not all about you. You can still learn a lot every day . Take every situation and learn from it. He followed through every time even if he did not dis agree with it. different flavors can be good. When do you know it was time to leave your first church. HAd close key people that spoke in his life. So he went to Dover , Delaware. To be a youth pastor. The pastor told him to do want you want to do. the church grew over a thousand. the stupidest thing he ever did. He took over 200 students to a grave yard and they are doing a bunch of activities. a women morning over her son put them in the newspaper and told learned a a lesson and his senior pastor told him to keep moving. He went Canada for three months and was fried. When you run and run and run with out boundaries. You fry. It fueled him to do so much but it drew him away from his kids. His wife was taken care of his kids. Canada second largest youth ministry and He realized that ministry took its tole. He resigned to make a statement to his wife so they would grow stronger. Pam his wife told PC do you think we will ever get back in the ministry he said God knows our mail address. SO he went to New Life to be youth pastors. It was about 300 people to 1200 people. It was a big church in Lancaster. When the light is on come to the house but when the light is on you can come in and talk. The outreach easter drive through. Build twelve life size scenes where 3 cars at a time would go through life size scenes of Christ 3000 cars would go through. People involved will start a Church to grow. It put the church on the map. Tom Kiniath could preach and   bought a bus 21 passenger. got for 4 hundred and it not have no brakes down a hill. Then they bought two busses. Bought a bus with out the board knowing. This when Brownsville revival was going on. DO not burn bridges everything is relational. Navigate the personal level you have. Dont get to close.Leave honorably. Peacemaker book off of Amazon. If feels like he has the support of the team he can do anything. learn to let go of each season. Enter each season in your life like its your favorite. the way you end one season is the way you will enter the next season. Read the Bible to know the character of God. Do not live in the past. Moves to Florida to a 1200 member church grew to 5000. from 4 people on staff to 13 people. Bought a PT cruiser before it came out. They would pick up kids in it. They were there for 7 years. He was the main worship leader too. The worship was youthful and it brought people into church. the pastor was forward thinking. Their kid pastors and ministry was awesome. they did a lot of outreach center. They built a dream center. The south is segregated because of income they reached the lower income families to help them out. they tutored kids. They moved back up here. The youth group grew to 700 hundred kids. Hired a associate pastor administrator, youth pastor for high school, and worship pastor for the kids. 2004 they moved up to Victory church as executive pastors and worship leaders. Structure is very important to PC. We are in the Lords hands. SO do not worry.

dave Kennard pastor at Riverside, Oakmont, PA with his crew.

Terminology instead of using christian ,Christ follower, trust in Christ, seek a relationship with him. Very intentional to speak in a way that no one knows what they are talking about. Explain before the worship what they will see and have to do in detail. They do not assume if people know customs like raising hands and clapping hands. After meet in greet sit down. Tell them where the kids are. If people ask a deep question they ask them to wait until the end or schedule an appointment to help them with there questions.

Dave Kennard pastor at Riverside, Oakmont, PA with his crew.

Exciting stuff to what God is going to do here tonight. A whole team of pastors that have heart for there area and host a multi-site church of two locations. MAin focus of small groups, Up bringing grew up in methodist pastor home . went to missouri state and AGTS. Saw he was a fixer so he did not becoming a counselor and became a pastor. Leading from the second chair. This was form seeing his dad worked to death so he does the administration and comes alongside a visionary pastor to help with the big picture.Was a pastor at James river AG in Springfield, MO. On the staff four years. Brand newly marry and was the youth administrator a busy pace. What he love about JR experience he love the jazz of a thousand students come and get ready to see the teens come to the church. This methodology worked. Most frustating experience low pay and intense 60 hours a week making 18000 a year. They left because of money. Most important lesson learned saw scotty gibbons stay so loyal to the senior pastor. He has been there 17 years. Ended up at Oakmont from  a friend.  10 months in waiting for a position. At a altar event heard God says time is up. His wife is said the same thing. Monty Hip Said the same thing.Starting looking all over the nation. Hs low point was when he was asked to.Prayed God what is it what you want me to learn? He needed to pray for the person moving on else where.After three conformations he thought he would have been going to a place in three months. God had to do something in his heart. A one residency helps and looks good on a resume. Titles are just as good as pay. You cannot steer a sitting wheel barrow. Give your resume to everyone you know.Visit the church even before the interview. See what they are about. Ended up at Oakmont. His senior pastor is a visionary starts things and vision and dream to lead. get things going and he finishes them.His staff has a long term blessing of staying there. They all have strengths they use in spite of their weaknesses hangout with each other and go to their homes and play racket ball with each other. Lead form a position of strength do not share weakness in sermons. Lead from a leadership of weakness and people will go further with them then a strength show. Dark side of leadership book. He is a Type A out going guy. Control freak question the how verses wow. Need to get dreamers to more and hows at the right time. Do not procrastinate work by feeling right just get it done. Learn give people space to do their part. Be committed to excellence. Two things
Costume parade giving out candy.
Missional go to the them meet them where they are at vs attractive consumer aspect

Rent price at the mall $6000 a month. They have a video site.
 stream box sending video through internet to the mills.
Bumper video to video. Red flag he has to preach yellow he has stall green is a go.
Free market small group. Come into a stetting 8-12 people share together have snacks sing a song then for an hour studying the word of God.
Using small groups as an evangelism tool. People get together do what they are passionate about and do it together.


D= R+I

Discipleship= Relationship+Intentional

-8   0    +8  


     Scale of person. +8 tithing,Bible reading , generous, serving believers.

     -8 no clue and does not follow God.


 

Steve defrane jr.and Donnie

God I want to stay out of the way of what you are doing. I want to stay out of the way and God you keep doing what you are doing and send people to him like that need you to come.Keep pride and arrogance out of my life. Give us wisdom what to do.

Steve defrane jr.and Donnie

He grow up in Church. His dad pastors morning star Church. Went to SAGU youth pastor in Oklahoma for four years. He did not go to school for ministry until his last year at college at age 21. GRowing up at church did not me any favors. The church people are mean. His parents help protect him. He had to get away from the church to find God get saved and felt his call. He felt like he was called at age 18 in some sort of ministry. He got involved at a church as a janitor and loved church and the church he was at. He was children/ junior high pastor. He really enjoyed it. He did like the traditional church because of the fights with music and dress wear. He also went to life church. Life tv church did everything in excellence. From the way they did kids ministry to the greetings to the signs they made. They lit a fire in him to do church better. His dad ask him to start a young adults service and it went horrible. The tipping point was at Sunday morning in the youth room. He met 25 Mennonite people and they gave him a building and 7 acres of land, so he stayed and renovated the building. In limerick PA he comes from a traditional church and a traditional church gave him their building. A building in a local setting is a blessing. Donnie was a hometown drunk left his wife and baseball coach. God grabbed him and he got saved in Virginia. After getting saved the addictions left him. He did not struggle from that day on. He went to recovery group. A few months later attending Journey got saved and went back to his wife God restored his marriage and he moved her back in in Valentines day from his In laws house. Six months later his wife got saved and baptized. He now is the campus pastor in Phoenixville PA. He does everything os the main pastor can come and he got  has his back. How did he grow? Talked about Jesus. With out the religious talk. His heart changed and behavior. His identity is in Jesus. His testimony lit a fire in the pastor. Only person that is a win is a person who meets Jesus. If you get saved grow serving getting and become a fanatic. That one sinner impresses Jesus. A Church should be a blessing to a community not a burden. Church should not ask for stuff , but bless a Church. Christmas Eve service was done different. Other than a candle light they has Santa playing the organ until start service starts. He has 3 services in Limerick and one in Phoenixville.

craig groeschel

Tonight we watched Craig Groeschel in class. He is pastor of Lifechurch.tv. He has over 22000 people in his congregation with multi-sited locations and the services are broadcasted 50 times in one week. He is recorded and live worship is streamed on line. Many people are touched by his ministry. His Church is founded in Oklahoma. He has a young adult audience and is in touch with the culture. He preaches at many conferences and goes to all over to preach in churches in the world. It was cool to watch it online in class to see it in a class room setting. There was a chat room and a host that monitored it to make sure clean things were written on it. It was a great experience to see. I have seen many churches do this and I think it is okay to tape and broadcast services live. It covers and gets more locations to hear the same vision and word the pastor has for the Church.

Bill Hybels Leadership Summit

Willowcreek.com/summit/team07 LSTE07

He has a Church of 22000 people. He is the lead pastor of Willow Creek. God has used him world wide to preach and talk at many conferences and leadership gatherings. He has written a few books.

Bill Hybels Leadership Summit

Willowcreek.com/summit/team07 LSTE07

He has a Church of 22000 people. He is the lead pastor of Willow Creek. God has used him world wide to preach and talk at many conferences and leadership gatherings. He has written a few books.

Learn to smile experiment.

This week we had a challenge as a class to smile and look people in the eye to let them know you are a caring person on campus. People whether or not they respond, it allows a seed to be planted in the technological world to have face to face conversation. It is wise to stay up with networking , but the fact is we are people and we need to interact with them in person. Lets not get stuck in an online and become a fein that is not personal. The world wants relationships, not made up superficial quality relationships that chew and taste like plastic, if we want to be real examples of the cross.Christ was blamed for hanging out with "sinners" people like you and me to have a profound difference in world. A professor said it well,we are all on the same playing field at the cross. If you are reading this and do not know about the Lord, one thing is certain he came for you. You might ask for what though? Life it is hard, unpredictable,and unsuspected things occur because of the corruption of sin. Sin separated us from God, but through Jesus Christ as out mediator we can have full connection with God. Accepting Jesus Christ is life changing and we can freedom from sin and live for truth, found in the bible. The Bible is the authoritative word from God given to us to his will. Wow God is drawing us to him. He , in God of the universe wants to have a relationship with you. Think about it the one who created us wants a thriving time with you. Allow God to have his way in your life. He smiles and looks you into his eyes too calling you his child and we have the right to call him father, abba father.